Boost : VIAGRA FOR YOUR ENGINE

Robert Taylor · 07-31-2009, 09:07 AM

I am amazed at the people who cry about their 2nd thru 5th gen Preludes being under powered . Their cars have nearly 3 times the power that my 1st Honda had but for some reason they can’t make it happen with what they got . My first Honda Accord lx in 1981 had 72 hp and a 5 speed . Shown below is the power output of some of the bad ass sports cars of the same time period . Learning how to get as much performance that I could possibly get out of my Accord was the best driving education I could get . I envy the owners of 1st gen Preludes because they are the best cars for learning how to get the most out of a small engine .
Toyota Supra : 140 HP
Porsche 944 : 150 HP
Corvette : 200 HP

Back then their was only one way to go fast and it required one to LEARN HOW TO DRIVE !
　
The two most important parts of driving fast with a small displacement engine involved keeping up momentum and keeping up enough speed that the engine will not drop out of its power band . If you lose speed when cornering , then as you exit the corner , that momentum will have to be replenished by the engine . Energy used on exit of a corner used to replenishes inertia is energy that’s not available to accelerate your car .
The Prelude has a transmission that is geared so that if your exiting a corner at or near its limits then the engine will be in in its power band and able to deliver the energy to accelerate out of the corner . If your skill level is such are such that you are not able to keep up the momentum and keep the engine in its power band on exit then the result is a disappointing rate of acceleration when exiting a corner .
Today’s drivers have a pill that helps compensate for their lack of ability on short auto cross tracks and back public winding roads and its called BOOST . For example , if you find yourself going into a corner in the wrong gear you just nail the throttle and everything works out ok because you have plenty of low rpm power with boost . I f you find yourself exiting a corner out of the engines normal power band and depleted of inertia , you just nail the throttle because again you have boost . Boost for people who drive short auto cross tracks or back public winding roads to me is like VIAGRA for your engine . Its for guys who can’t keep ( the rpms and inertia ) it up . Lol
　
Back in the early 1990es manufactures to save money decided to try to turn grocery getter , family cars into sports cars as a cheep way to satisfy that market . Thank God I own Prelude that was from the 2nd gen on a purpose built sports coupe !!! Shown below is an example of what I am talking about .

Plymouth Duster:

　
　
They installed a V6 mini van engine into this econo box and called it a sports coupe . Companies like Subaru with their Impersia are doing the same old shit today putting boost into family cars and redefine them as sports cars . I think that sucks . The Prelude is a purpose built sports coupe and I am sure glad I did not buy some thing that’ had to be modified and re-tagged .

　
My 3rd and Present Honda which is a 5th gen Type SH I dearly love and upping the power on it would just make it easier and more thrilling for me if I chose to drive into a ditch and that’s about all that extra power would be good for . Lol

1sickasslude · 07-31-2009, 09:12 AM

I just learned something. Welcome to the forum.
and if ur able to drive an SH into a ditch... Or did i read that part wrong?

egjdmh22a · 07-31-2009, 04:20 PM

ok cool. but real sports cars dont come with fwd

Andrew025 · 07-31-2009, 04:24 PM

You realize that most people couldn't care less how their car performs in autoX or on windy roads? They just want straight line fast cars.

Robert Taylor · 07-31-2009, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rudeludebb6

ok cool. but real sports cars dont come with fwd

That all changed with the double wishbone front suspension that gave the 2nd gen Prelude about .8gs of cornering power with Michelin MXV tires that were as good as you could get for that car at the time . The 5th gen TYPE SH Prelude was tested at as high as .9 gs in one of the car magazines ( Sports Compact Car ) and that was with cheap ass Bridgestone RE92 tires . Of coarse as a drag car your right , but on a twisty piece of road for which the Prelude was designed to run the Prelude is pretty hot .

Blue01 · 07-31-2009, 04:37 PM

Slow cars are slow.

DJTEMA · 07-31-2009, 04:38 PM

Post for sale, top 10.

first to PM me gets this post.

quality post in this dumb thread right here, get it while its still hot!

5thgenftmfw · 07-31-2009, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJTEMA

Post for sale, top 10.

first to PM me gets this post.

quality post right here, get it while its still hot!

Wtf...?

Blue01 · 07-31-2009, 04:51 PM

As those boosted family cars with strut-type suspensions disappear into the next corner ahead, never to be seen again (until they lap me) I always make sure to shout "I'm a better driver than you, look at how great I am! My car is also extremely sporty, with DOUBLE WISHBONE front suspension!".

"Also, I can't fit anything into my car, because it's sporty! You can fit a mattress in your car, and it has AWD so it can be driven all year around easily. What a dumb family car!"

"Well, my car isn't really sporty....with a small engine, tiny tires, and a wicked front weight bias"

"But if you looked at the insurance costs you'd know it's sporty!"

"Hello??"

nordicBBsex · 07-31-2009, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew025

You realize that most people couldn't care less how their car performs in autoX or on windy roads? They just want straight line fast cars.

I hate it when people call my car slow. I just challenge them to a drive in the twisties, now whos slow bwahahaha

egjdmh22a · 08-01-2009, 12:36 PM

does anyone know of a true sports car with fwd? preludes and celicas are sporty. not all out sport,

nordicBBsex · 08-01-2009, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rudeludebb6

does anyone know of a true sports car with fwd? preludes and celicas are sporty. not all out sport,

I honestly don't think there is one, the closest you get to fwd in a sports car is a car that has an adjustable awd like an sti

kmart64 · 08-01-2009, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nordicninjalude

I honestly don't think there is one, the closest you get to fwd in a sports car is a car that has an adjustable awd like an sti

how bout the best forward of all time...an itr...

nordicBBsex · 08-01-2009, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmart64

how bout the best forward of all time...an itr...

well yeah but that isn't really a purpose built sports car, that's just badass and japanese

MustardCat · 08-01-2009, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rudeludebb6

does anyone know of a true sports car with fwd? preludes and celicas are sporty. not all out sport,

1990's Lotus Elan:

nordicBBsex · 08-01-2009, 10:53 PM

^ good work

Nfchaos2003 · 08-02-2009, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rudeludebb6

does anyone know of a true sports car with fwd? preludes and celicas are sporty. not all out sport,

Fiat Barchetta

Saab Sonett

nordicBBsex · 08-02-2009, 12:22 AM

^ Anything a bit newer? ^

LudeBob89 · 08-02-2009, 04:11 AM

JDM 2008 Civic Type RR. Google it.

preludeBB9 · 08-02-2009, 10:04 AM

Fiat Barchetta

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAA!

what the hell does a barchetta have to do with the word SPORT in the same sentence???!!??!??!!!?

one of the most useless cars ever made by fiat.
i would prefer even the multipla over the barchetta!

have you ever drove that crap?
worthless piece of shit. crappy engine, a massive understeer at SOOOOOOOO low speed, ultra-cheap interior that tears apart after the first speed bump, need some engine rebuild at every 50k km........
i dont even wanna remember that experience...

i agree about the ITR tho.

frompa · 08-02-2009, 10:51 AM

400+ Hp in a prelude is awesome

. I think the op is actually poking fun at Boosting cars. Maybe I read it wrong. He drives a slow prelude and thinks no one should have a fast one. lol

Robert Taylor · 08-02-2009, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frompa

400+ Hp in a prelude is awesome

. I think the op is actually poking fun at Boosting cars. Maybe I read it wrong. He drives a slow prelude and thinks no one should have a fast one. lol

The thing I wonder is if a person wants a drag car then why do they by a Prelude thats was not designed or geared to be a drag car and make it something its not . Why not just go get a Mustang or Camaro !! Those rwd guys at the drag strip probably get a good laugh every time you would try to launch a FWD 400 HP car with all that rearward weight transfer . lol
Even Mr Jackson of Jackson racing in a write up said about his supercharger that the biggest problem in having such power on a FWD car is constant difficulty in preventing wheel spin . I guess all that power could be used in 4th and 5th gear for those people who regularly find themselves going between 100 and 150 mph on the highway . lol

http://www.supercharger.com/Shop/Vie...eIndexID=33374

frompa · 08-02-2009, 11:19 AM

First off, who says because you have 400hp that you have to go to a drag strip? Who says that you because you have 400hp... your car is now a drag car? You have no idea what you are talking about.

This is how we have fun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q94PW99Ta-8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgZ9wyz9w4I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbbDM...eature=related

And yes you can turn a fwd car into a drag car. Yea the muscle car guys can laugh when you launch but its all about who crosses the line first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgBxq...eature=related

And the best for last...

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/c...fe011c3f10.htm

94_prelude · 08-02-2009, 11:35 AM

^^^MD23 Vtec's Prelude that car is alot faster now too.

LOL_RICE · 08-02-2009, 11:36 AM

It's not like 400+hp isn't manageable..

Drive around on drag radials when you're out looking for some fun lol.

07-31-2009, 09:07 AM	#1
Robert Taylor Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 503 iTrader: (0)	Boost : VIAGRA FOR YOUR ENGINE I am amazed at the people who cry about their 2nd thru 5th gen Preludes being under powered . Their cars have nearly 3 times the power that my 1st Honda had but for some reason they can’t make it happen with what they got . My first Honda Accord lx in 1981 had 72 hp and a 5 speed . Shown below is the power output of some of the bad ass sports cars of the same time period . Learning how to get as much performance that I could possibly get out of my Accord was the best driving education I could get . I envy the owners of 1st gen Preludes because they are the best cars for learning how to get the most out of a small engine . Toyota Supra : 140 HP Porsche 944 : 150 HP Corvette : 200 HP Back then their was only one way to go fast and it required one to LEARN HOW TO DRIVE ! 　 The two most important parts of driving fast with a small displacement engine involved keeping up momentum and keeping up enough speed that the engine will not drop out of its power band . If you lose speed when cornering , then as you exit the corner , that momentum will have to be replenished by the engine . Energy used on exit of a corner used to replenishes inertia is energy that’s not available to accelerate your car . The Prelude has a transmission that is geared so that if your exiting a corner at or near its limits then the engine will be in in its power band and able to deliver the energy to accelerate out of the corner . If your skill level is such are such that you are not able to keep up the momentum and keep the engine in its power band on exit then the result is a disappointing rate of acceleration when exiting a corner . Today’s drivers have a pill that helps compensate for their lack of ability on short auto cross tracks and back public winding roads and its called BOOST . For example , if you find yourself going into a corner in the wrong gear you just nail the throttle and everything works out ok because you have plenty of low rpm power with boost . I f you find yourself exiting a corner out of the engines normal power band and depleted of inertia , you just nail the throttle because again you have boost . Boost for people who drive short auto cross tracks or back public winding roads to me is like VIAGRA for your engine . Its for guys who can’t keep ( the rpms and inertia ) it up . Lol 　 Back in the early 1990es manufactures to save money decided to try to turn grocery getter , family cars into sports cars as a cheep way to satisfy that market . Thank God I own Prelude that was from the 2nd gen on a purpose built sports coupe !!! Shown below is an example of what I am talking about . Plymouth Duster: 　　 They installed a V6 mini van engine into this econo box and called it a sports coupe . Companies like Subaru with their Impersia are doing the same old shit today putting boost into family cars and redefine them as sports cars . I think that sucks . The Prelude is a purpose built sports coupe and I am sure glad I did not buy some thing that’ had to be modified and re-tagged . 　 My 3rd and Present Honda which is a 5th gen Type SH I dearly love and upping the power on it would just make it easier and more thrilling for me if I chose to drive into a ditch and that’s about all that extra power would be good for . Lol 　　　　　　 Last edited by Robert Taylor; 07-31-2009 at 07:08 PM.

07-31-2009, 09:12 AM	#2
1sickasslude Preludepower Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kissimmee/Miami Posts: 3,164 iTrader: (10) View Photos By: 1sickasslude	I just learned something. Welcome to the forum. and if ur able to drive an SH into a ditch... Or did i read that part wrong? __________________ COD MW2--urmomsCooter69 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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egjdmh22a Preludepower Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: schdy ny Age: 28 Posts: 1,815 iTrader: (0)	ok cool. but real sports cars dont come with fwd __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Andrew025 Preludepower Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Eugene, Or Age: 22 Posts: 1,954 iTrader: (17) View Photos By: Andrew025	You realize that most people couldn't care less how their car performs in autoX or on windy roads? They just want straight line fast cars. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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DJTEMA Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Richmond Va Posts: 1,204 iTrader: (0) View Photos By: DJTEMA	Post for sale, top 10. first to PM me gets this post. quality post in this dumb thread right here, get it while its still hot! Last edited by DJTEMA; 07-31-2009 at 04:44 PM.

07-31-2009, 04:51 PM	#9
Blue01 Preludepower Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cold Posts: 5,282 iTrader: (0) View Photos By: Blue01	As those boosted family cars with strut-type suspensions disappear into the next corner ahead, never to be seen again (until they lap me) I always make sure to shout "I'm a better driver than you, look at how great I am! My car is also extremely sporty, with DOUBLE WISHBONE front suspension!". "Also, I can't fit anything into my car, because it's sporty! You can fit a mattress in your car, and it has AWD so it can be driven all year around easily. What a dumb family car!" "Well, my car isn't really sporty....with a small engine, tiny tires, and a wicked front weight bias" "But if you looked at the insurance costs you'd know it's sporty!" "Hello??" __________________ 2001 Base

08-01-2009, 12:36 PM	#11
egjdmh22a Preludepower Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: schdy ny Age: 28 Posts: 1,815 iTrader: (0)	does anyone know of a true sports car with fwd? preludes and celicas are sporty. not all out sport, __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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LudeBob89 Preludepower Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 865 iTrader: (0) View Photos By: LudeBob89	JDM 2008 Civic Type RR. Google it. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* B20A All the way. Beware of the underdog.

08-02-2009, 10:04 AM	#20
preludeBB9 True Luder Join Date: May 2008 Location: Labinci, Istra, Croatia Age: 24 Posts: 475 iTrader: (0)	Fiat Barchetta BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAA! what the hell does a barchetta have to do with the word SPORT in the same sentence???!!??!??!!!? one of the most useless cars ever made by fiat. i would prefer even the multipla over the barchetta! have you ever drove that crap? worthless piece of shit. crappy engine, a massive understeer at SOOOOOOOO low speed, ultra-cheap interior that tears apart after the first speed bump, need some engine rebuild at every 50k km........ i dont even wanna remember that experience... i agree about the ITR tho. __________________ BB9 JDM H22a, still looking forward to boost her finally...

08-02-2009, 10:51 AM	#21
frompa Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 4,146 iTrader: (9) View Photos By: frompa	400+ Hp in a prelude is awesome . I think the op is actually poking fun at Boosting cars. Maybe I read it wrong. He drives a slow prelude and thinks no one should have a fast one. lol __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* 450whp 361trq @ 17psi - FS: $9,800 OBO

08-02-2009, 11:19 AM	#23
frompa Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 4,146 iTrader: (9) View Photos By: frompa	First off, who says because you have 400hp that you have to go to a drag strip? Who says that you because you have 400hp... your car is now a drag car? You have no idea what you are talking about. This is how we have fun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q94PW99Ta-8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgZ9wyz9w4I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbbDM...eature=related And yes you can turn a fwd car into a drag car. Yea the muscle car guys can laugh when you launch but its all about who crosses the line first. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgBxq...eature=related And the best for last... http://videos.streetfire.net/video/c...fe011c3f10.htm __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* 450whp 361trq @ 17psi - FS: $9,800 OBO Last edited by frompa; 08-02-2009 at 11:23 AM.

08-02-2009, 11:35 AM	#24
94_prelude Lude Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Winter Park, Florida / Portland, Maine Age: 24 Posts: 583 iTrader: (0) View Photos By: 94_prelude	^^^MD23 Vtec's Prelude that car is alot faster now too. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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