Bisimoto Development Thread

2DrSE-i · 10-29-2009, 10:43 PM

As some of you may have noticed, Bisimoto has offered to make Cam gears for us. This is a reply i got from Justin@bisimoto
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Greetings,

I spoke to Bisi this morning about this matter and this is what I was told.

The designs for the A-series cam gears are near completion. If 20 people can commit to purchasing these cam gears then we can go ahead and put them into production.

For the intake manifold gaskets, we do not have any currently available for the A-series motors. If 50 people can commit to purchasing these gaskets Bisi said that he would design and produce the gaskets.

If you have any other questions or concerns please feel free to contact me

Thank you for your interest in Bisimoto Engineering and we look forward to hearing for you.

Sincerely,
Justin
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So I want to know who out there is interested in getting a cam gear or heat shielded intake manifold gaskets. Remember its 20 for the gears, 50 for the gaskets.
Bisimoto asks for a 75% deposit, which would be 101.25, and after the cam gears are made, another 33.75+shipping (I assume 135 is not the shipped price) will be due.

After this initial "Group buy", these parts will be available as ordered.
Cam Gear
1. 2DrSE-i (3geez)
2. Fijisac (3geez) (awaiting contact info)
3. Joay (3geez)
4. LX-incredible (3geez)
5. turabaka (3geez)
6. fmn716 (preludepower)
7. JFern (3geez)
8. TimO (preludepower)
9. Rjudgey (preludepower) (awaiting contact info)
10.Sh4dow (3geez)
11.Stangrcr1 (preludepower)
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.

Intake Manifold Gaskets
1. 2DrSE-i (3geez)
2. Vanilla Sky (3geez) (awaiting contact info)
3. Fijisac (3geez) (awaiting contact info)
4. JohnBoy (3geez)
5. 2ndGenGuy (3geez) (awaiting contact info)
6. 2ndGenGuy (3geez) (awaiting contact info)
7. carotman (3geez) (awaiting contact info)
8. carotman (3geez) (awaiting contact info)
9. 89T (3geez)
10. LX-incredible (3geez)
11. LX-incredible (3geez)
12. nswst8 (3geez) (awaiting contact info)
13. nswst8 (3geez) (awaiting contact info)
14.Naf's Asdf (3geez)
15. JFern (3geez)
16. JFern (3geez)
17. Zoldrin (preludepower)
18. knifemind (preludepower) (awaiting contact info)
19. Turabaka (3geez)
20. Pico (3geez)
21. rustlude87 (preludepower)(awaiting contact info)
22. rustlude87 (preludepower) (awaiting contact info)
23. Sh4dow (3geez)
24. JohnBoy (3geez)
I'm also posting this on PreludePower, since those guys should be just as interested. Thanks guys!

Justin, feel free to chime in here if I've missed anything!

2DrSE-i · 10-29-2009, 10:44 PM

Oh, the shipped price on the intake manifold gaskets is $48

night · 10-29-2009, 11:34 PM

well.. good luck. i've had a gear for a long time, but i've never been very convinced of the intake gaskets though.

2DrSE-i · 10-29-2009, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by night

well.. good luck. i've had a gear for a long time, but i've never been very convinced of the intake gaskets though.

Yea im not sure about the gaskets, but ill buy one just to see. I'll probably save it for a b-series intake manifold.

fmn716 · 10-30-2009, 01:49 AM

Would they ship to South Africa and is the price of the Gear $20, my motor is also a ET series motor

knifemind · 10-30-2009, 02:12 AM

No, he meant 20 people must purchase for the gears to be made. They are 135. And yes, it will work fine on an ET.

fmn716 · 10-30-2009, 02:33 AM

Ok found some pics of there other models look awesome count me in

After this initial "Group buy", these parts will be available as ordered.
Cam Gear
1. 2DrSE-i (3geez)
2.FMN716 (Prelude Power)
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.

zoldrin · 10-30-2009, 05:29 AM

So these are supposed to thermally insulate your intake manifold from the cylinder head ??

Are they actually effective or worth the money? Anybody had experience with them?

And will Bisi do one for A20 engines? (Different intake port pattern to A18/ET)

rjudgey · 10-30-2009, 10:46 AM

Nice I'd be interested in 1 or 2 the gaskets though not bothered about can get those made up in UK cheap.

Old$koolLude · 10-30-2009, 01:28 PM

i already have a golden eagle cam gear but i might be interested in the gaskets tho

2DrSE-i · 10-30-2009, 03:04 PM

Gaskets will be made for the A20 motors, not A18/ET. They are supposed to be heat reducing somehow, not really sure on the specifics.

1. 2DrSE-i (3geez)
2. Fijisac (3geez)
3. Joay (3geez)
4. LX-incredible (3geez)
5. turabaka (3geez)
6. fmn716 (preludepower)
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.

Intake Manifold Gaskets
1. 2DrSE-i (3geez)
2. Vanilla Sky (3geez)
3. Fijisac (3geez)
4. JohnBoy (3geez)
5. 2ndGenGuy (3geez)
6. 2ndGenGuy (3geez)
7. carotman (3geez)
8. carotman (3geez)
9. 89T (3geez)
10. LX-incredible (3geez)
11. LX-incredible (3geez)
12. nswst8 (3geez)
13. nswst8 (3geez)
14.
(etc)

Quote:

Originally Posted by turabaka

Put me down for a cam gear. I'll have to think about the gasket.

Let us know!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naf's Asdf

I'll take one if international shipping isn't too expensive.

One what??

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtmst3

if the total comes out under 150 ill be down for a gear

Price with shipping is exactly 150, let us know

List updated, if i missed anyone, sorry!

You PP guys let me know when you commit to buy. I didnt add anyone who said maybe

cygnus x-1 · 10-30-2009, 03:14 PM

The gaskets would be made of nylon or some other kind of material with low thermal conductivity. The idea is to reduce heat transfer from the head to the intake manifold. Keeping the manifold cooler keeps the incoming air/fuel mixture cooler and therefore more dense. Meaning more power and probably less tendency for heat soaking the IAT sensor.

C|

Gamerkiller3000 · 10-30-2009, 04:02 PM

Well i am for the cam gear... but i dont think i will have the funds ready! also for the gaskets

fmn716 · 10-30-2009, 04:59 PM

OK just onething do theyship to south africa

zoldrin · 10-30-2009, 06:06 PM

I'll probably get a gasket, when do we have to confirm by?

Would there be any possible noticeable advantage to having the heat shielding gasket when using carbs?

justin@bisimoto · 10-30-2009, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmn716

OK just onething do theyship to south africa

We are offering international shipping

fmn716 · 10-30-2009, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justin@bisimoto

We are offering international shipping

can you give me a price with shipping for the cam gear

zoldrin · 10-30-2009, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justin@bisimoto

We are offering international shipping

Tell me, will I see any possible, noticeable improvement running the thermal shield intake gasket with carbs on a built engine?

team123luder · 10-30-2009, 08:08 PM

May I add, the bisi cam gears interlock into one another, which will pretty much make them slip proof!

I'm ditching my skunk2's for some Bisi gears.

knifemind · 10-31-2009, 02:18 PM

Cam Gear
1. 2DrSE-i (3geez)
2. Fijisac (3geez)
3. Joay (3geez)
4. LX-incredible (3geez)
5. turabaka (3geez)
6. fmn716 (preludepower)
7. JFern (3geez)
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.

Intake Manifold Gaskets
1. 2DrSE-i (3geez)
2. Vanilla Sky (3geez)
3. Fijisac (3geez)
4. JohnBoy (3geez)
5. 2ndGenGuy (3geez)
6. 2ndGenGuy (3geez)
7. carotman (3geez)
8. carotman (3geez)
9. 89T (3geez)
10. LX-incredible (3geez)
11. LX-incredible (3geez)
12. nswst8 (3geez)
13. nswst8 (3geez)
14.Naf's Asdf (3geez, barring expensive international shipping)
15. JFern (3geez)
16. JFern (3geez)
17. Zoldrin (preludepower)
18. knifemind (preludepower)

mikes87lude · 10-31-2009, 02:27 PM

How much improvement can an adjustable cam gear make on a SOHC engine? I can see how it helps on DOHC where you can adjust exhaust and intake cams independently.

zoldrin · 10-31-2009, 07:11 PM

Not a whole lot, unless you plan to skim the head or deck surfaces, in which case the cam gear will be able to compensate for the change in timing caused by this.

Having said that, on an otherwise unaltered engine, I believe you can still derive some tuning gains by adjusting the valve timing via the cam gear. This won't be near as profound as on a DOHC engine, however.

EDIT: Just to make it known, I'm on the list for an intake gasket. 2DrSE-i knows, I'll let him update the list as I'm sure it is progressing on 3geez too. EDIT of EDIT: Just noticed knifemind took care of the list! Come on people, buy some gaskets!!!

2DrSE-i · 11-01-2009, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoldrin

EDIT: Just to make it known, I'm on the list for an intake gasket. 2DrSE-i knows, I'll let him update the list as I'm sure it is progressing on 3geez too. EDIT of EDIT: Just noticed knifemind took care of the list! Come on people, buy some gaskets!!!

Oh sorry, thought i updated it on here too. We are making some great progress on this so far!

I think the last 10 on the intake gaskets will be rough though.
Cam Gear
1. 2DrSE-i (3geez)
2. Fijisac (3geez)
3. Joay (3geez)
4. LX-incredible (3geez)
5. turabaka (3geez)
6. fmn716 (preludepower)
7. JFern (3geez)
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.

Intake Manifold Gaskets
1. 2DrSE-i (3geez)
2. Vanilla Sky (3geez)
3. Fijisac (3geez)
4. JohnBoy (3geez)
5. 2ndGenGuy (3geez)
6. 2ndGenGuy (3geez)
7. carotman (3geez)
8. carotman (3geez)
9. 89T (3geez)
10. LX-incredible (3geez)
11. LX-incredible (3geez)
12. nswst8 (3geez)
13. nswst8 (3geez)
14.Naf's Asdf (3geez, barring expensive international shipping)
15. JFern (3geez)
16. JFern (3geez)
17. Zoldrin (preludepower)
18. knifemind (preludepower)
19. Turabaka (3geez)
20. Pico (3geez)

fmn716 · 11-01-2009, 01:29 AM

Fellow luders please put your names by the cam gears I really want one PLEASE!!!!!

zoldrin · 11-01-2009, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2DrSE-i

Oh sorry, thought i updated it on here too. We are making some great progress on this so far!

I think the last 10 on the intake gaskets will be rough though.

You're doing a good job mate. My commitment to the gasket is firm.

We should probably aim for more than the required amount of commitments before sending money off to Bisi, as there is no point in sending all our money if it turns out 10 or so people pull out or forget about it all together, and then having to wait and keep Bisi waiting for ages, or all getting refunds or something.

10-29-2009, 11:34 PM	#3
night True Luder Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: houston Posts: 393 iTrader: (0)	well.. good luck. i've had a gear for a long time, but i've never been very convinced of the intake gaskets though. __________________ . To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-30-2009, 02:12 AM	#6
knifemind Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Asbestosville, MT Age: 29 Posts: 741 iTrader: (3) View Photos By: knifemind	No, he meant 20 people must purchase for the gears to be made. They are 135. And yes, it will work fine on an ET. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-30-2009, 05:29 AM	#8
zoldrin Hepcat Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: AUS Posts: 2,244 iTrader: (2)	So these are supposed to thermally insulate your intake manifold from the cylinder head ?? Are they actually effective or worth the money? Anybody had experience with them? And will Bisi do one for A20 engines? (Different intake port pattern to A18/ET) __________________ "To me, absurdity is the only reality." -FZ A20 Build: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by zoldrin; 10-30-2009 at 05:33 AM.

10-30-2009, 10:46 AM	#9
rjudgey Preludepower Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 4,419 iTrader: (0)	Cam pulley's Nice I'd be interested in 1 or 2 the gaskets though not bothered about can get those made up in UK cheap. __________________ i like to hunt big game boy ricers are no challenge!

10-30-2009, 01:28 PM	#10
Old$koolLude Lude Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: VA Posts: 727 iTrader: (2) View Photos By: Old$koolLude	i already have a golden eagle cam gear but i might be interested in the gaskets tho __________________ 2011 honda ruckus : my toy 1987 honda prelude dx :my baby -undergoing full rebuild/restoration b14 200sx :the DD -CAI w/K&N -BPi flowstack -px3 heat insulating intake gasket -stillen front lip -bomz strut bar my build/restore thread- To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. EAT,SLEEP,[H]onda

10-30-2009, 03:14 PM	#12
cygnus x-1 Preludepower Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chicago area Age: 35 Posts: 2,196 iTrader: (3)	The gaskets would be made of nylon or some other kind of material with low thermal conductivity. The idea is to reduce heat transfer from the head to the intake manifold. Keeping the manifold cooler keeps the incoming air/fuel mixture cooler and therefore more dense. Meaning more power and probably less tendency for heat soaking the IAT sensor. C\|

10-30-2009, 04:02 PM	#13
Gamerkiller3000 Preludepower Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hollister, California Age: 19 Posts: 1,092 iTrader: (0) View Photos By: Gamerkiller3000	Well i am for the cam gear... but i dont think i will have the funds ready! also for the gaskets __________________ 2nd Gen Honda Prelude Concept 2010 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Honda Owners Never Drive Anything else! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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zoldrin Hepcat Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: AUS Posts: 2,244 iTrader: (2)	I'll probably get a gasket, when do we have to confirm by? Would there be any possible noticeable advantage to having the heat shielding gasket when using carbs? __________________ "To me, absurdity is the only reality." -FZ A20 Build: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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team123luder Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Age: 18 Posts: 16,930 iTrader: (15) View Photos By: team123luder	May I add, the bisi cam gears interlock into one another, which will pretty much make them slip proof! I'm ditching my skunk2's for some Bisi gears. __________________ FOR SALE!!!! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-31-2009, 02:18 PM	#20
knifemind Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Asbestosville, MT Age: 29 Posts: 741 iTrader: (3) View Photos By: knifemind	Cam Gear 1. 2DrSE-i (3geez) 2. Fijisac (3geez) 3. Joay (3geez) 4. LX-incredible (3geez) 5. turabaka (3geez) 6. fmn716 (preludepower) 7. JFern (3geez) 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. Intake Manifold Gaskets 1. 2DrSE-i (3geez) 2. Vanilla Sky (3geez) 3. Fijisac (3geez) 4. JohnBoy (3geez) 5. 2ndGenGuy (3geez) 6. 2ndGenGuy (3geez) 7. carotman (3geez) 8. carotman (3geez) 9. 89T (3geez) 10. LX-incredible (3geez) 11. LX-incredible (3geez) 12. nswst8 (3geez) 13. nswst8 (3geez) 14.Naf's Asdf (3geez, barring expensive international shipping) 15. JFern (3geez) 16. JFern (3geez) 17. Zoldrin (preludepower) 18. knifemind (preludepower) __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-31-2009, 02:27 PM	#21
mikes87lude Preludepower Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Houston, Tx. Age: 33 Posts: 982 iTrader: (1) View Photos By: mikes87lude	How much improvement can an adjustable cam gear make on a SOHC engine? I can see how it helps on DOHC where you can adjust exhaust and intake cams independently. __________________ Bottles are for babies...Real men get blown! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-31-2009, 07:11 PM	#22
zoldrin Hepcat Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: AUS Posts: 2,244 iTrader: (2)	Not a whole lot, unless you plan to skim the head or deck surfaces, in which case the cam gear will be able to compensate for the change in timing caused by this. Having said that, on an otherwise unaltered engine, I believe you can still derive some tuning gains by adjusting the valve timing via the cam gear. This won't be near as profound as on a DOHC engine, however. EDIT: Just to make it known, I'm on the list for an intake gasket. 2DrSE-i knows, I'll let him update the list as I'm sure it is progressing on 3geez too. EDIT of EDIT: Just noticed knifemind took care of the list! Come on people, buy some gaskets!!! __________________ "To me, absurdity is the only reality." -FZ A20 Build: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by zoldrin; 10-31-2009 at 07:34 PM.

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